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To Somers From Croton

September 2, 2005

This photo series, shot by Trustee Charlie Kane, shows an orderly closure of Metro Enviro with last truck arriving at 4:20 pm and weighing out empty at 5:08 pm.

The pictures also show the proximity of the Metro North commuter trains to the facility as a northbound express passes the one story scale house office (with the flag pole) and the landscaping and flagstone patio at the gate house. This is a stark contrast to the slovenly Karta site in Peekskill.

While Charlie and I waited for the final truck to weigh out, we talked with the scale house operator who has worked at the Croton site since 2003. Dennis Rock, the Allied scale house operator estimated in a back of the envelope for us that shifting the monthly volume of 127 rail cars outbound with trucks outbound from Somers (no rail access) would put 551 additional tractor trailer trucks on the surface streets in that community.

The net effect is that Karta and more likely the C&D transfer station in Somers will receive the C&D that up to this point has been arriving in Croton. Mr. Rock also told us that Karta was currently charging $45 more per ton of C&D and would continue to be able to charge even higher rates hereafter.

He concluded that the immediate impact on local contractors and residents undergoing home renovations would likely be both a higher per container charge and a higher hauling charge to more distant transfer stations, starting 6 September.

The last photos show the doors of the transfer shed clearly closed and the employees leaving in their cars.

Trustee Leo Weigman

On September 22, 2005 10:50 PM, Mrs. Smith said:

You have to be joking deepsix. For years we were told how almost every truck coming through our town was a filth-spewing, garbage-carrying truck headed for Metro enviro, but NOW, they are just trucks that travel on a highway. That has ALWAYS been the case and as someone who travels rte 129 daily at peak travel time, I can see for myself how many trucks are supposedly travelling our streets. Not that many - I commented today when I read the post from because of the fact that a truck carrying C&D through the village was not a sight I had seen as much as a few people would have us believe.

On September 22, 2005 5:15 PM, dors said:

Oh, silly deepsix50, NOW the nature of Rte 129 is trucks coming through Croton but before ME closed opponents foamed at the mouth about all the filthy and noisy trucks barreling through our little town. I have made this point, but it’s worth making again; ME trucks have never been as prevalent as the Sears trucks, Macy’s furniture trucks, and moving vans, etc. coming directly into our neighborhoods. The ME trucks came off the highway and got back on the highway. Not the scary “ooze-dripping” monsters that opponents of ME continuously carped about.

On September 22, 2005 2:56 PM, deepsix50 said:

129 is a state highway. You are going to see trucks. That is the nature of 129.

But with Metro closed, not as many C&D trucks. This has been documented in dozens of grateful letters to board members from residents living on Maple-129. I know. I am one of them.

In the meantime if you followed this truck to Somers, and presumably you followed it to the Somers transfer station, you should send the name on the truck and license plate to the Somers board so that they can check whether or not it was violating whatever terms they have in place for their transfer station. Of course, you will have to come forward with your name and address.

On September 22, 2005 1:31 PM, Mrs. Smith said:

Deepsix - as usual, you twist what I am saying, the truck did not come from Metro Enviro - it was before 7 AM. It had NJ plates, using Ms. Cudaquest’s logic, it came from New Jersey, and I followed it to Somers.

On September 22, 2005 1:15 PM, weewill said:

Somers won’t be alone in their worry. Croton will be worrying right along with them. Even though Metro Enviro is closed for the minute - we are now faced with even bigger worries than ME ever presented.

This new threat of NIRR and Greentree’s stated comments that they’re not going away… that they are in for the long haul… that the site will be operated at the very least as a C&D site, should increase our worrying, not lessen it. It’s reported that Greentree and or NIRR have been trying to meet with the board and or village manager to discuss what might be reasonably worked out to ensure they will be a good neighbor.

None of us know for sure what’s going to happen but we can be sure that something worse than ME even thought of being will come into that site unless the village is able to have exercise some control. And the only way to achieve any control at all is by compromise and negotiation.

We need to be realistic and tell the Mayor and Trustees to stop with the “We Won’t Talk” position they campaigned on. It’s what got us to where we are today and has placed this village in a most untenable position.

On September 22, 2005 1:06 PM, deepsix50 said:

Ms. Smith: You have stated that you watch and or attend village board meetings. At a recent board meeting, Mayor Schmidt indicated that the public will see trucks as part of the 90 day cleanup-closure of the site. Obviously you missed that one.

On September 22, 2005 12:15 PM, Mrs. Smith said:

How co-incidental. I had to drive to Somers this morning and as I left the Black Cow, I got behind a Jersey plate truck filled with what looked like C&D and followed it all the way to rte 100 leading into Somers. The interesting thing is that, while opponents of Metro Enviro complained of the traffic tearing up the village streets, among all their other complaints, even after the facility is closed, we still have the trucks coming through the streets. Ms. Cudaquest, Ms. Minnett, where are you now with your loud villifying of the village board?

On September 22, 2005 11:31 AM, TeaDrinker said:

Of note from our neighbors in Somers regarding Metro Enviro…

As reported on “The Week-End Report, September 9, 2005”:

…”The good people responsible for — an excellent forum for residents of Croton-on-Hudson, and one recently mentioned in an article in The New York Times on local weblogs — reached out to us last week with a ‘heads up’ concerning an alarming posting on their weblog, entitled “To Somers From Croton”.

In a nutshell, the posting’s author, Croton town trustee Leo Wiegman, speculates that Somers’ transfer station could be the ‘beneficiary’ of over 550 tractor trailer-loads of additional C & D (construction and debris refuse) each month, as a result of the recent closing of the Metro Enviro transfer station in Croton.

That would be 550 tractor trailers traveling through Somers’ streets, and heading up Route 100 to the transfer station there, each month. Does that facility have the necessary Town and State approvals for this additional business? Are their current permits up to snuff? How will their current maximum permissible loads be affected?

These are but some of the questions Town officials will need to answer in the near future”…

On September 2, 2005 6:27 PM, weewill said:

We’ve spent how many thousands of dollars to close this place down? It doesn’t look so messy and awful as we’ve been told.

Thanks Trustee Weigman for giving us a touch of reality about Metro Enviro. The small, independent contractors and consruction guys like our very own Adam West and Mark Franzosa will be the ones to feel the closing the most. They will have to pay more to get rid of our own C&D. And this will defintely equate to even more costs for Croton homeowners. Renovations and home improvements will immediately face a increase in price.

Someone said in a previous post we should be careful what we wished for. No one knows what we’ll get in place of MetroEnviro. We do know that Karta, a real nightmare, just to our north will get richer and richer as our little guys pay more and more.

And Ms. Cudequest you can stop worring about Ohio and worry about our closer neighbors in Somers.


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